Edward “Ned” Rodgers
Birth Name | Edward “Ned” Rodgers |
Also Known As | Ned |
Gender | male |
Age at Death | 78 years, 2 months, 17 days |
Narrative
Some notes for Edward "Ned" and Anna (Cunningham) Rodgers that don't fit anywhere else.
Ned Rodgers is not listed in the First Valuation Revision Book, which covers the years 1864 - 1879, at least not in Ballymadeerfy. Were they living with one of their families?
I have a note that says that the 50th anniversary picture of the Rodgers and their descendants was taken in February on an exceptionally warm day. This is according to their grand-daughter Ann (O'Rourke) Telzrow, who is in the picture and was about age 5 at the time.
The early research on this family was done by Edward and Anna's granddaughter, Ann "Nan" (Gallagher) Fleming, who was a librarian. She provided a lot of information which made it possible to find original records, to locate married children on the later censuses, etc.
Family information had said that their first three children were born in England, but their oldest daughter Mary's birth record is in Ireland. Hugh's baptism was in Kilkeel while his parents were living in Ballymadeerfy.
Hugh's places of death is unknown. He may be the Hugh Rogers who died in West Derby and Toxteth Park, Liverpool, England, in the third quarter of 1870. He did not accompany his mother to the United States, and the family always said that he died in England.
In 1900, when asked for their year of immigration to the United States, Ned Rodgers said 1867 and Ann said 1870. These might be the years they each left Ireland, or they might just be the typical inaccuracies of immigration years on censuses. If it is the year that each of them left Ireland, that would fit in with the family's story that Ned left Ireland first and then went back to get his wife. See below under "Was Edward "Ned" Rodgers a Fenian?"
According to Edward Rodgers' granddaughter Ellen (O'Rourke) Guarnieri, when Ned and Ann were riding the train from New York to Ohio, Ned wanted to get off in Scranton, Pennsylvania, because the other immigrants they were with were all talking about how easy it was to get work in the mines. Ann said, I didn't come all this way to have you spend your life underground, we're staying on this train to Ohio.' This seems to imply that they arrived together, or that one or the other waited in New York for the other to make the voyage.
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Was Edward "Ned" Rodgers a Fenian?
According to his granddaughter Ellen (O'Rourke) Guarnieri and others, Ned Rodgers "was in the British Navy. He had to leave Ireland because of some trouble with the predecessors of Sinn Fein. He went back to get his wife, and then they came to America."
Since the predecessors of Sinn Fein were the Irish Republican Brotherhood, and there was indeed "some trouble" involving them in Ireland in 1867, it is possible that Ned had some role in the trouble. He was a sailor when married, their first daughter was born in Ireland in 1866, their first son Hugh was baptized in January 1868, and their next child William was born in England in 1870. Additionally Ned gave 1867 as his year as immigration.
On Jan 2, 2010, there was no reference to Ned Rodgers' service records in the [British] Registers of Seamen's Services at http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/royal-navy-service.asp. It appears that all the records in this series, Continuous Service engagement books, ADM 139, were online by then.
In October 2010 I emailed the British Archives and asked if suspected Fenians' records were removed from the military records. They responded with the stock answer suggesting how to do research, when the library was open, etc. But they also said that the merchant marine data was not yet online. Perhaps Ned Rodgers was in the Merchant Marines.
There is also a chance that he was working for a local sailor and the story was embellished, but I don't think that is the case.
Ned Rodgers' name is not in the online list of those attending a Fenian Convention in Cleveland in 1877.(freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mruddy/VCAttendees.htm).
In March 2019 I inquired on the "One Day in the Life of Kilkeel" group at facebook.com regarding records of Fenian activity in Kilkeel. Dermot Balson was only able to find a few clippings. The only one from 1867 only talked about planned or canceled activity, and did not mention any names.
Events
Event | Date | Place | Description | Sources |
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Birth | August 30, 1838 | Ireland | 1 | |
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Residence | March 1, 1865 | Ballymadeerfy Townland, Kilkeel Civil Parish, County Down, Ireland | Ballymadeerfy Townland | 2 3 |
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The family had always said that the Rodgers were from Ballymadeerfy, County Down, Ireland, and Edward was living there, in Ballymadeerfy, in the civil parish of Kilkeel, when he was married. He was a sailor at the time. His father Patrick was a farmer. The sponsors at the wedding were Pat Sloan and Rosey Devine. (This information comes from a transcription of the marriag record. The transcription is no longer online.) |
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Residence | February 23, 1866 | Ballymadeerfy Townland, Kilkeel Civil Parish, County Down, Ireland | 4a | |
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of Ballymaderphy when his daughter Mary was born |
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birth of child (Father) | February 23, 1866 | Ballygowan Townland, Kilkeel Civil Parish, County Down, Ireland | 5a | |
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Ann's first child, Mary, was born in Ballygowan. |
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death of a child (Father) | August 12, 1869 | Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire, England | 48 Stanhope Street | 6a |
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Edward and Anna's son Hugh died at 48 Stanhope Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool, on August 12, 1869. Ann's residence, as the informant, was also 48 Stanhope St. |
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birth of child (Father) | July 29, 1870 | Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire, England | 11 Court, Stanhope Street | 6b |
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Edward and Anna's son William was born at 11 Court, Stanhope Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool, on July 29, 1870. Anna was of that address.
They were not enumerated at that address on 2 April 1871 when the 1871 Census of England was taken. I browsed the enumeration district for the address: |
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Occupation | July 29, 1870 | fireman on a steamer | 6b | |
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Edward was working as a fireman on a steamer when his son William was born. |
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Residence | July 1871 | England | England | 7a |
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Edward and Anna's son Will was born July 1871 in Liverpool, England. I did not find the family on the 1871 Census in Liverpool. |
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Residence | 1872 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | 28 Crown | |
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is this him? I couldn't find Crown Street. |
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Residence | 1873 | Newburgh, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | Railroad Street | 8 |
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1874 Cleveland City Directory |
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Residence | March 3, 1873 | Newburgh, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | in Newburgh when daughter Ann was born | 9 |
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Anna Rogers, born March 3, 1873, in Newburgh, Cuyahoga Co. "Ohio, Births and Christenings, 1821-1962," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X61H-W8L : accessed 27 Feb 2014), Anna, 03 Mar 1873. |
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Residence | August 20, 1874 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | 18th Ward, Cleveland | 10 |
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Aug 20, 1874, female born in the 18th ward of Cleveland to (maiden name) Ann Cunningham, 30, and Edward Rogers, 34, both born in Ireland. Attended by P.S. Ruggles
From Ohio, County Births, 1856-1909 at familysearch.org |
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Residence | 1876 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | Meech Street | 8 |
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1877 Cleveland City Diectory |
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Occupation | from 1877 to 1879 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | laborer Cleveland Rolling Mill | 8 |
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Cleveland City Directory |
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Residence | May 1, 1877 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | 18th Ward, Cleveland | |
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May 1, 1877, birth, female Rodgers, in the 18th Ward
From Ohio, County Births, 1856-1909 at familysearch.org "Ohio, County Births, 1841-2003," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XDT6-B5H : accessed 27 Feb 2014), Rodgers, 1877. |
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Residence | August 9, 1878 | Newburgh, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | Meech Street, Newburgh | 9 |
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When their daughter Helen "Nell" was born on August 9, 1878, the Rodgers were living "near city limits, Meech Street." The record was from the Board of Health of the City of Cleveland. Meech St. is in the Newburgh section of Cleveland, so it must have been near the boundary with Newburgh City at the time.
on the other hand, there is this record that says she was born in Newburgh "Ohio, County Births, 1841-2003," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VR9S-83M : accessed 27 Feb 2014), Ellen Rodgers, 1878. |
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Residence | June 7, 1880 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | 18th Ward, Cleveland | 10 |
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June 7, 1880, Lucy Rogers, born in Cleveland
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Census (Head) | June 8, 1880 | Newburgh, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | 1880 Edward Rodgers household | 11 |
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1880 United States Census, Newburgh Township, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Rogers, Edward, 42, head, works in iron mill, born in Ireland, parents also "United States Census, 1880," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M8M3-CVR : accessed 21 Feb 2014), Edward Rogers, Newburgh, Cuyahoga, Ohio, United States; citing sheet 259B, family 0, NARA microfilm publication T9-1009 |
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Residence | June 8, 1880 | Newburgh, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | in Newburgh Township | 11 |
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Living in Newburgh Township on the 1880 Census |
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Occupation | June 8, 1880 | works in an iron mill | 11 | |
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was working in an iron mill when the 1880 Census was taken |
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Residence | from 1881 to 1882 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | 2026 Harvard | 8 |
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Cleveland City Directories |
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Residence | May 28, 1882 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | Harvard St | 9 |
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May 28, 1882, Bridget Rogers, birth, parents: Edward and Anna Rogers, living on Harvard "Ohio, County Births, 1841-2003," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X6HQ-NVD : accessed 27 Feb 2014), Bridget Rogers, 1882. |
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Residence | 1883 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | 2033 Harvard | 8 |
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Cleveland City Directory |
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Naturalization | before June 15, 1900 | possibly in 1883 | 7a | |
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On the 1900 Census Edward "Ned" Rodgers said he was a naturalized citizen. There is a record in the Probate Court records of Cuyahoga County of the naturalization of an Edward Rogers on October 6, 1883. (Vol. 17, Page 143, NB. Country IR). His witness was Theodore Keegan, of 2300 Woodland Hills Rd. There is no address or other information for Edward. I don't know if this is "our" Edward Rodgers or not. This man's Declaration of Intention to become a citizen was made in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Ohio. Those records are kept in the National Archives branch in Chicago and are not yet online. |
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Residence | from 1884 to 1889 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | 1784 and 1785 Harvard | 8 |
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Cleveland City Directories This corresponds to about 9300 Harvard Ave today (2014). And It might be the same house, just renumbered, unless they moved across the street, I don't know. |
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Residence | from 1890 to 1891 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | 2012 Cannon | 8 |
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Cleveland City Directory |
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Residence | 1892 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | 466 Sawyer | 8 |
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Cleveland City Directory |
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Residence | 1893 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | 116 Hull | 8 |
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Cleveland City Directory |
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Residence | 1894 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | 2488 Elmo | 8 |
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Cleveland City Directory Elmo was called East 89th St after the street reorganization. This must have been next door to the Rodgers' eventual home at 4025 East 89th St. |
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Residence | from 1895 to 1897 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | 2484 Elmo | 8 |
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Cleveland City Directory This became 4025 East 89th Street |
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Census (Head) | June 15, 1900 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | 1900 Edward Rodgers household | 7a |
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1900 Federal Census, Ohio, Cuyahoga Co., 26th Ward of Cleveland.
Rodgers, Edward, head, Aug 1837, 62, M 50, born in Ireland, parents also, arrived 1867, naturalized, stationary engineer, married 30 years, not unemployed in past year All old enough could read and write. [Note the difference in the year that Edward says he arrived in the US and what Anna said. Did the census taker ask "When did you leave Ireland?" or "When did you arrive here?"] "United States Census, 1900," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MMZF-V9Z : accessed 21 Feb 2014), Edward Rodgers, Precinct D Cleveland City Ward 26, Cuyahoga, Ohio, United States; citing sheet , family 265, NARA microfilm publication T623, FHL microfilm 1241257. |
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Residence (Head) | June 15, 1900 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | 2484 Elmo | 7a |
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living at 2484 Elmo when the 1900 Census was taken. This became 4025 E. 89th after the Cleveland street reorganization in 1906. |
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Occupation | June 15, 1900 | stationary engineer | 7a | |
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working as a stationary engineer at the time of the 1900 census |
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Voter Registration | October 10, 1907 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | Ward 18, Precinct B | 12 |
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Index to MS 3475 Cleveland, Ohio, Board of Elections Registration Records, 1907-1908, Western Reserve Historical Society
Surname RODGERS, First William, http://www.wrhs-library.org/public/%7BB485A8C3-69FD-83FC-3555-2A0914EFAE80%7D/results.php |
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Residence | October 10, 1907 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | 4025 East 89th St | 12 |
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was living at 4025 East 89th St when he registered to vote in October 1907 |
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Census (Head) | April 15, 1910 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | 1910 Edward Rodgers household | 13 |
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1910 Federal Census, Ohio, Cuyahoga Co., 18th Ward of Cleveland. Edward Rodgers, head, 71, married 1x for 45 years, born in Ireland, parents also, retired, living on own income, could not read or write English, arrived in US in 1872, is a naturalized citizen Anna Rodgers, Wife, 66, married 1x for 45 years, born in Ireland, parents also, 10 children, 7 alive, arrived in US in 1872
William Rodgers, Son, 40, Widowed, born in England, parents in Ireland, arrived in US in 1872, is a naturalized citizen, stationary engineer
Maggie Cushing, daughter, 35, married 1x for 14 years, 5 children, 3 alive, born in Ohio, parents in Ireland Edward Anderson, Grandson, 21, born in Ohio, father in Maryland, mother in Ireland, street car conductor John McCracken, Grandson, 18, born in Ohio, parents also, time keeper in a wire mill
John McGee, boarder, 35, born in Ireland, parents also, arrived 1900, heater wire mill "United States Census, 1910," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/ML8G-V1M : accessed 21 Feb 2014), Edward Rodgers, Cleveland Ward 18, Cuyahoga, Ohio, United States; citing sheet , family 2, NARA microfilm publication T624, FHL microfilm 1375186. |
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Residence (Head) | April 15, 1910 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | 4025 East 89th St | 13 |
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4025 E. 89th |
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Occupation | April 15, 1910 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | retired, living on own income | 13 |
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the 1910 census said he was retired and living on his own income |
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Anniversary | March 1, 1915 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | 4025 East 89th St | |
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Ned and Ann Rodgers celebrated their fiftieth wedding anniversary in 1915. There is a picture of them with all their living descendants and most of the marriage mates in front of their home on E. 89th. |
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Residence | November 1916 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | 4025 East 89th Street | 14a |
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Edward died at home at 4025 East 89th Street. |
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Death | November 16, 1916 | Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | 14a | |
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Ohio Death Record File #66942, Registered # 9477
'Attended the deceased from Nov 3, 1916 to Nov 16, 1916,
Date of Burial: 20 Nov 1916 Informant: John McCracken, 4025 E. 89th St. "Ohio, Deaths, 1908-1953," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X8ND-SBR : accessed 28 May 2014), Edward Rodgers, 16 Nov 1916; citing Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, reference fn 66942; FHL microfilm 1983838. |
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Burial | November 20, 1916 | Calvary Cemetery, Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio, United States | 14a | |
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Rodgers, Edward |
Parents
Relation to main person | Name | Birth date | Death date | Relation within this family (if not by birth) |
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Father | Patrick Rodgers | 1876 | ||
Mother | Peggy Quinn | |||
Edward “Ned” Rodgers | August 30, 1838 | November 16, 1916 | ||
Brother | Hugh Rodgers | |||
Brother | William Rodgers | |||
Brother | John M Rodgers | between 1846 and 1852 | after September 25, 1912 | |
Sister | Margaret Rodgers | 1854 |
Families
Family of Edward “Ned” Rodgers and Ann Cunningham |
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Married | Wife | Ann Cunningham ( b. from 1843 to 1845 d. September 28, 1925 ) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Children |
Name | Birth Date | Death Date |
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Mary Rodgers | February 23, 1866 | November 11, 1897 |
Hugh Rodgers | about January 12, 1868 | August 12, 1869 |
William J Rodgers | July 29, 1870 | April 23, 1915 |
Ann E Rodgers | March 3, 1873 | October 28, 1950 |
Margaret Rodgers | August 20, 1874 | September 24, 1943 |
Catherine Rodgers | May 1, 1877 | April 18, 1966 |
Helen Beatrice Rodgers | August 9, 1878 | April 25, 1954 |
Lucy T Rodgers | June 7, 1880 | October 12, 1970 |
Delia Rodgers | May 28, 1882 | October 2, 1926 |
Pedigree
Source References
- Nan Gallagher's research
- Marriage record
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Ireland Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958
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- Page: Marriages, Kilkeel registration District, Volume 1, page 769, Edward Rogers, 1865.
- Confidence: Very High
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Irish Civil Registration Records, Marriages
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- Page: Mary Rodgers, Births: 227, February 23, 1866, Kilkeel Dist, in Ballygowan
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Irish Civil Registration Records, Births
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- Page: Mary Rodgers, Births: 227, February 23, 1866, Kilkeel Dist, in Ballygowan
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English Civil Registrations
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- Page: August 12, 1869, Hugh Rogers, W Derby and Toxteth Park, Lancaster
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- Page: William Rodgers, birth, 29 Jul 1870, Toxteth Park RD, Lancaster
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1900 United States Federal Census
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- Page: Cleveland, Ward 18, ED 70, sheet 6, family 133
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Citation:
"United States Census, 1900," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MMZM-R5N : accessed 17 Feb 2014), Jas Mcaney in household of Lizzie Welch, Precinct D Cleveland City Ward 18, Cuyahoga, Ohio, United States; citing sheet , family 133, NARA microfilm publication T623, FHL microfilm 1241254.
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- Cleveland City Directories
- Ohio Births and Christenings, 1821-1962
- Ohio County Births
- National Archives and Records Administration: 1880 United States Census
- Voter Registration Records, Board of Elections, Cleveland, Ohio, Index
- 1910 United States Federal Census
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Ohio Deaths, 1908-1953
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- Page: Edward Rodgers, 16 Nov 1916; citing Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, file number 66942
- Confidence: Very High
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