Samuel Page II
Birth Name | Samuel Page II |
Gender | male |
Age at Death | about 59 years |
Narrative
Samuel II is the son of one of the four sons of Joseph Page, the first Page in the Orono to Bangor area. He is not the son of Stephen Page, since Stephen's son Samuel is accounted for. He is probably not the son of James Page, since James' household in 1820 has no sons in it. He could be the son of Isaac Page. The town records of Eddington might have information on Isaac's family. Samuel could also be the son of Joseph Page. He did name his first son Joseph, and not Isaac or James.
Notes on the family of Samuel II and Judith (Dudley) Page
Regarding their marriage record: Orono's vital records for the years 1826 to 1836 are a copy made from those in Old Town, which was set off from Orono and incorporated in 1840. Orono thought the records were lost in a fire, but later found that Old Town had the information. [Perhaps when the towns split, they made a copy of all the records. Then later there was a fire in Orono which destroyed the records for the years 1826 to 1836. They thought they were lost forever but then realized Old Town had a copy as well. Then they copied Old Town's so that Orono's were complete.]
Why does this matter? Samuel II and Judith/Julia were married in 1831, within this time frame.
I have looked at the microfilm of Old Town's records and transcribed
the record as follows:
30 Aug 1830 Intention Saml Page, 2d
Julia Dudley, both of Orono
(Source: Town Records of Old Town, Maine. Microfilm at New England Historic and
Genealogical Society. Section 2. Births, Deaths, Marriages and Misc. Town Records, 1827 - 1839
Marriages p. 201.)
The groom's first name is very hard to make out. The ink and the page are about the same color, due to fading or filming. It could be "Saml" but you could mistake it for "James". However, there is no known James Page II in the area, but there is a Samuel Page II on the censuses.
I am not alone in transcribing it this way. Ruth Gray transcribed it as Samuel also:
Page, Samuel, 2nd & Juely Dudley
int 3 Aug 1830 (B 207)
(Source: Ruth Gray, Editor, Vital Records of Old Town, Maine, prior to 1892,
(Camden, Maine: Picton Press, 1996.)
The microfilm copy of the record which Orono has says, on page 363:
363 30 Aug 1830 Intention James Page, 2d
363 Judy Dudley, both of Orono
(Source: Microfilm Records from Orono, Maine, at New England Historic and Genealogical Society
Section 1, Orono Book, 1806 - 1838)
But as mentioned above, these records were copied from Old Town's. At the beginning of Section 1, there is a note which says: "December 1826 to 1836, 213 records thought to have been destroyed by fire, but found in Old Town records, continue on page 357."
And on page 355 they say: "This is a copy of records of the town of Orono from the year 1826
to the year 1836, said records being now in the possession of the town of Old Town. A true copy of the record. attest. M.C. Marsh, Town Clerk."
I believe that Old Town's record should be relied upon, since it is either the original record itself
or the first copy made from the originals, some of which were destroyed by the fire. Orono's version is either a copy of the original, or a copy of a copy.
Samuel is identified as the parents of Joseph Page, the railroad engineer who married Abby Dudley and lived in Orono and Bangor for these reasons: Joseph's age matches that of Samuel's son Joseph. Joseph and Abby Page named a daughter Eunice as did Samuel II and Judith. Joseph and Abby were living in Veazie P.O., Orono, in 1860, as were Samuel II and Judith. After Abby died, Joseph's second marriage record said his father's name was Samuel. There are no other Joseph Pages on the census records or available vital records whose age and information match the railroad engineer's.
The only other Samuel Page in Orono is never listed with a son named Joseph. In fact, he has a daughter Mary A. the same age as the Joseph in this family, making it difficult, unless they were twins. However, on the 1840 Census, this other Samuel is listed with only one son, who is between five and ten years old. This young man's name was Charles, age 17, in 1850. (See the group for the other Samuel Page family for sources.)
Also, in 1848 or 1849 Samuel Page II and a Joseph Page purchased for $100 from Nathaniel Treat of Orono a parcel of land in Orono beginning at the southeast corner of Lot #66. (Penobscot County Land Records, Volume 198, Page 527). I have 6 July 1848 for the date of the deed and 1 Oct 1849 for the date it was recorded.
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Census Information for Samuel Page, 2nd, b. abt 1801
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1840 Census, Maine, Penobscot, Orono
Series M704, Roll 149, Page 256
Page, Samuel, 2d head of household with
1 male under 5 [John F.]
2 male 5 - 10 [Joseph, Samuel W.]
1 male 30 - 40 1 female 30 - 40
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1850 Census, Maine, Penobscot, Orono
Series M432, Roll 264, Page 257A
Census sheet 515.
Martha McPheters, 80 [or 86] ME [marital status not asked]
Samuel Page 2nd, 48, Laborer ME, no RE Value
Julia " , 44 ME
Joseph " , 19 ME
Samuel W. " , 16 ME
John F. " , 12 ME
Eunice W. " , 8 ME
[Martha is listed as if head of this household based on the first two columns which record house number and family number. But it could be a mistake. She probably was in the previous household, that of John McPhetres, 2nd, and Matilda (Page) McPhetres.] That would leave Samuel Page 2nd as head of this household.
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1860 Census, Maine, Penobscot, Orono
Series M653, Roll 446, Page 916, family 187
Post Office: Veazie
Samuel Page 2nd, 50 Farmer, ME, Worth: $100, Real Est.: $450
Julia 47 ME
Winthrop 28 ME
John 22 ME
Events
Event | Date | Place | Description | Sources |
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Birth | about 1801 | Orono, Penobscot County, Maine, United States | ||
General
Death record of son Samuel Wentworth said Samuel II died in Veazie, but for a time Veazie was a post office section of Orono. |
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Census (Head) | 1840 | Orono, Penobscot County, Maine, United States | 1a | |
Event Note
1840 Census, Maine, Penobscot, Orono |
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Census (Head) | 1850 | Orono, Penobscot County, Maine, United States | 2a | |
Event Note
1850 Census, Maine, Penobscot, Orono,
Martha McPheters, 80 [or 86] , born in ME
[Martha McPheters is listed as if head of this household based on the first two columns which record house number and family number. But it could be a mistake. She probably was in the previous household, that of John McPhetres, 2nd, and Matilda (Page) McPhetres.] That would leave Samuel Page 2nd as head of this household. |
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Census (Head) | June 19, 1860 | Orono, Penobscot County, Maine, United States | 3a | |
Event Note
1860 Census, Maine, Penobscot, Orono
Samuel Page 2nd, 50, farmer, personal estate: $100, real estate $450, born in Maine |
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Death | between 1860 and 1870 | |||
General
He is alive in 1860 but his wife Judith is living with her son in 1870. She is stated to be a widow in 1880. |
Families
Family of Samuel Page II and Judith “Julia” Dudley |
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Married | Wife | Judith “Julia” Dudley ( b. March 29, 1806 d. after 1880 ) | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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Children |
Name | Birth Date | Death Date |
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Joseph Page | about 1830 | July 31, 1913 |
Samuel Wentworth Page | about 1833 | September 12, 1864 |
John F. Page | August 1837 | June 24, 1909 |
Eunice W. Page | about 1841 | January 1860 |
Pedigree
Source References
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1840 United States Census
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- Page: Maine, Penobscot, Orono, Series M704, Roll 149, Page 256
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1850 United States Census
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- Page: Maine, Penobscot, Orono, Series M432, Roll 264, Page 257A, Census sheet 515.
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1860 United States Census
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- Page: Maine, Penobscot, Orono, Series M653, Roll 446, family 187, original page 29
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Citation:
"United States Census, 1860", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MDCH-DH7 : 18 February 2021), Samuel Page, 1860.
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Ruth Gray, editor: Vital Records of Old Town, Maine, Prior to 1892
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General:
Ruth Gray, editor, Vital Records of Old Town, Maine, prior to 1892, (Camden, Maine: Picton Press, 1996), page 13.
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General:
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- Old Town, Maine, Town Records