John Rourke

Birth Name John Rourke
Gender male
Age at Death about 86 years, 2 days

Events

Event Date Place Description Sources
Sources Notes
Birth about January 19, 1827 County Down, Ireland    
General

Based on date of baptism

Baptism January 19, 1827 Kilbroney Civil Parish, County Down, Ireland   1a
General

Kilbroney Church Records, Baptisms
January 19, 1827
Johnson of James Rourke and Nancy Colgan was baptized, sponsors Patrick Doran and Mary Colgan

Death January 21, 1913 Ballintur Townland, Killowen, Kilbroney Civil Parish, County Down, Ireland   2a
General

Kilkeel Registration district, (pre-1973 Q4)
D/1913/128/1015/7/107
John O'Rourke
21st January 1913
Ballintur
male, married, age 85, farmer
cause: senile decay, partial paralysis and exhaustion, no recent medical attendance
informant: John O'Rourke, son, present at death
registered: January 28, 1913
M McCartan, Registrar

Probate (Deceased) March 15, 1960 Belfast, County Down, Ireland will of John Rourke (Sr) 3a
Event Note

Title : Mr Date of Death : 21 January 1913
Surname : Rourke Date of Grant : 15 March 1960
Forename : John Reseal Date :
Registry : Belfast Effects : Effects £312 0s 0d
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Full Abstract :
Rourke, John of Ballintur Killowen county Down farmer died 21 January 1913 Administration Belfast 15 March to Elizabeth Rourke spinster. Effects £312.

Parents

Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father James Rourkeabout 17791857
Mother Ann “Nancy” Colgan
    Sister     Margaret Rourke 1822
    Brother     Edward Rourke about 1824 April 4, 1894
         John Rourke about January 19, 1827 January 21, 1913

Families

    Family of John Rourke and Catherine Hughes
Married Wife Catherine Hughes
   
Event Date Place Description Sources
Sources Notes
Marriage January 10, 1866 Kilbroney Catholic Parish, County Down, Ireland   1b 2b
General

Kilbroney Parish Registers

January 10, 1866
John Rorke to Cath Hughs
witnesses: Berd Kirkpatrick, Sara Feran

http://registers.nli.ie/registers

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Civil Registration

Registration number: M/1866/U1/2380/1/28
Registration district: Newry & Mourne
Place of marriage: Roman Catholic Chapel of Rostrevor, Registrar's district of Rostrevor, Kilkeel Union, County Down
Date of marriage: 10th January 1866

Groom name: John Rorke, 38, bachelor, farmer, resident of Killowen, father: James Rorke, farmer

Bride: Catherine Hughs, 25, spinster, housekeeper, resident of Killowen, father: Francis Hughs, farmer

Married in the Roman Catholic Chapel of Rostrevor ... by me, Pat O'Neill, RP

signed by John Rourk and Cath [her mark] Hughs
witnesses: Berd [their marks] Kirkpatrick and Sara [their marks] Feran

  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
Ann Rourke
    Family of John Rourke and Ellen Rogers
Married Wife Ellen Rogers
   
Event Date Place Description Sources
Sources Notes
Marriage December 1, 1871 Kilbroney Catholic Parish, County Down, Ireland   1c 2c
General

Kilbroney Catholic Parish Registers
December 1, 1871, marriage
John Rorke and Ellen Rodgers
witnesses: James Magee, Mary Rorke

note: the parish register looks like Oct 1, but it is recorded after an entry that says Nov 2.
http://registers.nli.ie/registers

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Civil Registration
Registration number: M/1871/U1/2380/3/15
Registration district: Newry & Mourne
Place of marriage: Roman Catholic Chapel of Killowen, Registrar's district of Rostrevor, Kilkeel Union, County Down
Date of marriage: 1st December 1871
Groom: John Rourke, 42, widower, farmer, resident of Ballintur, father: James Rourke, farmer
Bride: Ellen Rodgers, full age, spinster, no occupation, resident of Ballincurry, father: William Rodgers, a laborer
Married in the Roman Catholic Chapel of Killowen ... by me Daniel Mallon, CC.
signed by John Rourk and Ellen Rodgers
witnesses: signed by James Magee, and Mary [her mark] Rourke

Witnesses at a marriage are usually close friends and relatives, so John might have had a sister Mary. On the other hand, Ellen Rogers may have had a good friend named Mary Rourke.

Sacred Heart chapel in Killowen was built in 1871.

  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
James O'RourkeNovember 10, 1872March 21, 1959
William O'RourkeJanuary 23, 1874February 20, 1967
John RourkeOctober 27, 1875March 10, 1941
Elizabeth RourkeMarch 1878January 30, 1962

Narrative

John Rourke of Ballintur Townland, County Down, Ireland was baptized on January 19, 1827, likely at home or at Killowen Chapel. He was the son of James Roarke and Nancy Colgan. The sponsors at his baptism were Patrick Doran and Mary Colgan. John’s sister Margaret had been baptized in 1822 and his brother Edward in 1824.[1]When Griffith’s Valuation of Ballintur was taken in 1863, there was no James Rourke in the area, so John’s father had probably died. Instead there is a listing for John’s brother Edward.

I had suspected that John Rourke was living in Edward’s household at the time. The Valuation Revision Books, now at the Public Records of Northern Ireland (PRONI) website seem to confirm that theory.

The first Valuation Revision Book in 1865 shows Edward as tenant on the family property, renting from the Trustees of the Kilmorey Estate. The ‘house, office, and land’ for parcels 23A, 23B, 23C, 23D, 23Ea were valued at 18 Pounds, 15 Shillings.[2]

In 1867 the valuation was split almost equally between Edward and John, with each section valued at a little over 9 Pounds. John Rourke married in 1866. In 1873 it seems that he and Edward split the land between them. John leased parcels 23C and 23Ec, and Edward got 23D and 23Ea.

In 1881 the ownership of the land came into the hands of the Earl of Kilmorney and in 1882 John and Edward Rourke are listed as paying him the judicial rent.[3] In 1883 the value was revised upward slightly. Not much changed regarding the land after that.

A letter from a Peter Doran of Ballintur, dated Dec 28th 1888, to his [unnamed] brother, presumably in America says: “i sold Magee and John Rourke 10 hundred of straw at 2 shillings per hundred”.[4] This could be our John Rourke, as he was the only one by that name in Ballintur. Of course Mr Doran might have taken his wheat farther afield and sold it to a different John Rourke.

As mentioned, John Rourke and Ellen Rogers were married in 1871. The date was October 1, and the location was most likely Killowen Chapel. The priest was named Daniel Mallon and the witnesses were James Magee and Mary Rourke. The record also states that John was a farmer in Ballintur at the time of the marriage, and his father’s name was James. Ellen was of Ballincurry, and her father’s name was William.[5] Witnesses at a marriage are usually close friends and relatives, so John might have had a sister Mary. On the other hand, Ellen Rogers may have had a good friend named Mary Rourke. John and Ellen had four children: James born November 10, 1872; William (January 23, 1874); John (about 1877); and Elizabeth (March 7, 1878).[6] James and William emigrated to the Newburgh section of Cleveland, Ohio.[7] John and Elizabeth remained in Ireland.

The oldest census that has survived is from 1901. John Rourke and his nephew Edward are enumerated after each other in households two and three in Ballintur Townland. John’s age is given as 72 and his wife Ellen’s as 64. Their son John was listed as 24 and their daughter Elizabeth as 20. They were all Roman Catholic, born in County Down. They could all read and write.Their home was a private dwelling with three outbuildings: a stable, a coach house, and a fowl house. The walls were made of either brick or stone and the roof was thatch. There were two rooms in the home, and two windows on the front of the house. This type of house was rated as a third class dwelling. There were four classes and fourth was the lowest.[8]In 1911 the family was still in Ballintur. They had added a cow house to the property, and the elder John had gone deaf. The census information includes the fact that the family spoke only English, and no Irish. Despite the new cow house, the dwelling was still third class.[9]

In 1913 Irish land reform came to Ballintur. The entries in the Revision Book for that year shows that all the property in the Townland was now held “in fee”. This is the legal term for the common form of land ownership we are most familiar with in the British Isles and America.The record for 1913 says that the parcel of land previously rented by John Rourke was now owned by a John Rourke. I don’t know if this is the elder John or his son, since I don’t know when John or his wife Ellen died. There is a record in the Kilkeel District Civil Registration Index of a John Rourke dying in the 1st quarter of 1913 at the age of 85. This could be him. And there is a record in the Kilkeel District Civil Registration Index of an Eilen Rourke dying in the 1st quarter of 1918 at the age of 75. This could be her.

I also don’t know how long their son John lived and remained in Ballintur. Their daughter Elizabeth survived her brother James’ death in 1959 and was named in his death notice. She might be the family member who received my aunt Theresa O’Rourke in the late 1950′s or early 1960′s when she visited Ireland. If so, I think Elizabeth was still living on the family’s property or nearby, since Theresa said the land ran down to the Irish Sea. There are O’Rourke children in some school photos from the 1890′s to the 1920′s on the Killowen History Society website. Some of them may be John and Ellen Rourke’s grandchildren. Some may be Edward and Rose (Fagan) Rourke’s grandchildren. Or, just as easily, they may be from other Rourke families in the area.

 

Footnotes
1. Kilbroney Church Records, transcribed and emailed by Deidre McEvoy.
2. Images of the Valuation Revision Books, at the Public Records of Northern Ireland (PRONI) website.
3. Return of judicial rents fixed by Sub-Commissions and Civil Bill Courts, notified to Irish Land Commission, September – November 1882, Kilkeel, County Down, transcribed at Raymond’s County Down Website.
4. “Peter Doran, Ballintur, [Co Down?] to ‘Dear Brother’” at the Irish Emigration Database, http://ied.dippam.ac.uk/records/26775
5. Kilbroney Church records (see note 1); Ireland Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958, at familysearch.org.
6. for James and Elizabeth’s births: from filmed records in the International Genealogical Index at familysearch.org. For William: family information, Social Security Death Index. For John: estimated from censuses.
7. See the articles on this site entitled William O’Rourke, Killowen to Cleveland and James O’Rourke, Killowen to Cleveland.
8. 1901 Census images at http://census.nationalarchives.ie for Ballintur Townland, Kilbroney Parish, Killowen District Electoral Division in South Down, Co. Down. (Poor Law Union: Kilkeel).
9. 1911 Census images at http://census.nationalarchives.ie for Ballintur Townland, Kilbroney Parish, Killowen District Electoral Division in South Down, Co. Down. (Poor Law Union: Kilkeel).

 

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1901 Census images at http://census.nationalarchives.ie
In kilbroney civil parish, Ballintur.
Districts, largest to smallest: Down/South Down/Kilkeel/Killowen/Ballintur

Hsld Name Relation to Head Rel Age Sex Occupation Married? P.O.B.
2 John Rourke Head RC 72 M Farmer M Down
Ellen Rourke Wife RC 64 F Housekeeper M Down
John Rourke Son RC 24 M Farmers Son S Down
Elizabeth Rourke Dau RC 20 F Farmers Daughter S Down

all could read & write

John owned the home.
It was a private dwelling with three out buildings, a stable, a coach house, and a fowl house.
The walls were brick or stone, the roof was thatch.
There were two rooms in the home, and two windows on the front of the house. This all made it
a 3rd class dwelling (on a scale of 1 to 4, with 4 being the lowest.)

John's nephew Edward Rourke was next door, household #3. Thomas Rourke (relation not yet known) was in household #16.

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1911 Census from http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/
Residents of house number 3 in Ballintur (Killowen, Down)
Surname Forename Age Sex
Rourke John 83 Male, farmer, Deaf.
Rourke Ellen 72 Female
Rourke John 30 Male
Rourke Elizabeth 24 Female

John and his wife Ellen were living in the third household enumerated in Ballintur Townland, Kilbroney Parish, Killowen District Electoral Division in South Down, Co. Down. (Poor Law Union: Kilkeel).
John was 83 and Ellen was 72. John was a farmer, and had gone deaf. Their children John, age 30, and Elizabeth, age 24, were with them. Both were single. All in the household were Roman Catholic, and all could read and write. They were all born in County Down and could speak English only (no Irish).
They lived in a private dwelling which John (the father) owned. The walls were stone, brick or concrete, and the roof was thatched, wooden, or some other perishable material. The home had two rooms, with two windows on the front. This made it a third-class home for the census records. On the property was also a stable, a coach house, a cow house and a fowl house.
The first two houses enumerated were owned by Edward Rourke. He rented the first to a Joseph Wright and his family, and lived in the second with two brothers and two sisters. All were single. There was a Thomas Rourke, Francis O'Rourke, Sloans and Fearons on the same page, and other Rourke/O'Rourkes in other townlands in Down.
Source: Images of the 1911 Irish Census, online at www.census.nationalarchives.ie, including reports of homes and buildings.

Attributes

Type Value Notes Sources
Merged Gramps ID I0032
 

Pedigree

  1. James Rourke
    1. Ann “Nancy” Colgan
      1. Margaret Rourke
      2. Edward Rourke
      3. John Rourke
        1. Catherine Hughes
          1. Ann Rourke
        2. Ellen Rogers
          1. James O'Rourke
          2. William O'Rourke
          3. John Rourke
          4. Elizabeth Rourke

Source References

  1. Kilbroney Catholic Parish Registers
      • Page: John Roarke, Jan 19, 1827
      • Date: January 10, 1866
      • Page: John Rorke to Cath Hughs
      • Page: John Rorke & Ellen Rogers, Oct 1, 1871
  2. Irish Civil Registrations, images
      • Page: Kilkeel, D/1913/128/1015/7/107
      • Page: Newry & Mourne, M/1866/U1/2380/1/28
      • Date: January 10, 1866
      • Page: Newry & Mourne, M/1871/U1/2380/3/15
  3. General Record Office of Northern Ireland: Will Calendars, General Record Office of Northern Ireland
      • Page: John Rourke, d 21 Jan 1913, date of grant 15 March 1960

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